“Banker” keeps saying Obama doesn’t qualify as a U.S. citizen, and Celly keeps citing a law in effect between 1952 and 1986 that supposedly shows that Obama cannot be a citizen because his mother had not yet attained the age of 18.
Banker said I should look up the law for myself. So I did. Only I didn’t rely on a summary of the law; I read the actual text of the law.
Section 1433 of Title 8 of the U.S. Code is the relevant law. As in effect between 1952 and 1986 (as today) the law was clear that the residency and age of a parent was relevant ONLY for citizenship of children born outside the U.S., not children born in the U.S. The law cited by Celly doesn’t apply to persons born in the U.S. at all.
The passage repeatedly quoted by Celly and others comes from an immigration law firm web page. Celly and others fail to mention that on that page, it clearly states that the discussion only applies to children born outside the U.S.
Celly–I’m looking at 8 USC section 1401 and it says exactly what I’m saying.
The law by its own terms applies only to persons born outside the United States. It doesn’t not apply to persons born in the United States. Hawaii is a state, and it was a state at the time of Obama’s birth.
Celly–Please stop cutting and pasting blog posts and look at the actual text of the law, including the law you just quoted. It’s very clear. Persons born in the U.S. are U.S. citizens.
If you think the birth certificate is a fake, then you never would be concerned about the INA in the first place, right?
Marcia B
July 15, 2010 at 7:27 pm
Obama was born in Hawaii. Its a state and was 47 years ago. End of story. People who claim otherwise are simply not very bright.
Non supporter
July 15, 2010 at 7:41 pm
man , people’s stupidity is growing just like AIDS
zomba_ru
July 15, 2010 at 8:15 pm
Even if Obama’s biological mother was not 18 at the time of his birth, Obama was naturally born in the USA. It does not matter to this point if both of his parents are illegal aliens, if he was born in Hawaii, he is consider to be a “naturally born US citizen”. Congratulations!
thequeenreigns
July 15, 2010 at 8:32 pm
This is what happens when simple minds come across a little bit of knowledge. It blows their puny minds. Good for you. In any event. He was born in HI our 50th state, that alone made him a US citizen end of story.
therealmadea
July 15, 2010 at 9:30 pm
They’re a bunch of idiots – with nothing better to do. This question has been asked and answered numerous times. The people that keep bring this mess up will never be satisfied with any answer they receive – it’s simply amazing how pathetic people can be, and how much they allow their misguided hate to effect their common sense!
celly
July 15, 2010 at 9:45 pm
Let’s look at the applicable law, shall we? The Immigration & Nationality Act, Section 301(g) [8 U.S.C. 1401]:
“a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years;”
McKinnon then launches into a convoluted and rambling discourse on what Stanley Ann Dunham would have had to do to avoid being in the country. The only trouble is that the law he cites refers to children born after 1986. Here is the 1952 law in question, applicable to those born between 1952 and 1986:
The Immigration and Nationality Act of June 27, 1952, 66 Stat. 163, 235, 8 U.S. Code Section 1401 (b). (Section 301 of the Act). “Section 301. (a) The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth: “(1) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof; … “(7) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States, who prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years.
Jaz
July 15, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Yes. They are puppets and just go by what the racist conservative talk show tell them. They don’t do their own research just listen to that crap all day and come here and ask stupid questions. They need to be worried about McCain. He was born in panama.
OBAMA ‘08
Marxist Regime 4 America
July 15, 2010 at 10:42 pm
Well Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961,It had become a state in 59 I’m thinking.Not hard to figure the correct answer.